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Author:  Karls [ Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Help meeeeeeee !! Textures/Colors Error !
Hi ! -_-u

I have a problem, i dont know... im total newbie in make-maps for UO...
mi problems is this...

(MS PAINT)
1.- I use Mod11 Dragon (V1.05.00 Beta Prerelease #8a) (of download section)
2.- I use the Chart color "mod11eng.png" (8bits) in "Addons" DIR

3.- I use a Template of tutorial "mapTemp.bmp" (8bits) (6144 x 4096 px)
(A COPY OF ORIGINAL DOWN)

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I select a little zone of color (WATER) and copy, later paste in TEMPLATE, pickup colour and paint all with cube... and Grey zones (Borders for dont use) dont touch this...

later y run the DRAGON... (with all paths good, and FIX path writed for me, why select and dont see the URL...)

(LOCK DOWN)

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And later Run Dragonsp.exe.. Select all and Clean statics current

(LOCK DOWN)



All right...
Later i copy the files map0, statics and staidx and paste in Muls DIR ofs Sphere.. and in DIR of ULTIMA-ONLINE...


Later Join.. and look........

(LOCK DOWN)

Image


AND BORDERS !!

Image




WHYYYYYYYY ??
ANY ERRORS?


PLEASE HELP MEEEEEEEE :(

THX THX THX THX !!! (sorry my english is bad )
Author:  Karls [ Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:12 pm ]
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Upss.. dont post a Dragonsp.exe... but is good (0 errors and clean current statics)


PLEASE HELP ME!
Author:  Dev Viperrious [ Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:58 pm ]
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Quote:
I select a little zone of color (WATER) and copy, later paste in TEMPLATE, pickup colour and paint all with cube... and Grey zones (Borders for dont use) dont touch this...


What do you mean you "copy and paste"? You should load the colors into your Photoshop and select them from the "Swatches".

Dev
Author:  karls [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:23 am ]
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i use MS PAINT.. or gimp.. but the bittrate (8) is correct in 2? imgs ?
Author:  Karls [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:42 am ]
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RESUMEN:

The blue zones in template ----> Green Grass in Map.
And Brown Zone ---> Water...

Look the effects with this rare change of colors...




THE COLORS IS BAD !!!
PLEASEEE !!
Mys 2 IMG how many bits is corrects? 8 ?
Author:  Sydius [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:46 am ]
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8 -- and it goes by index, not color.
Author:  Guest [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:49 am ]
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and extension of image ?

But the "mod11eng.png" in ADDONT DIR (DRAGONMOD11)
is PNG extension !!

is normal ? i copy a litle part of color chart and later paste in Template (The Template in Download section. (<--------- this template is valid for mod11)

Resumen:
i use the color-chart PNG extension of MOD11 (ADDONS DIR)
i use the template of Download section, ( = MS PAINT TUTORIAL...)

(OTHER INFO:)
i paint with cube the big zone map (no dungeons zone)
of blue -5 water.. (i test with all waters...)
and later y use dragon.. paste the map0.mul in UO and Sphere DIR. Run Client and ALL IS GREEEEN !!! GRASSSSS



AHHGG!! :( :( :( :( :(
Please Help...
Author:  Guest [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:51 am ]
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Last Post Correction wrote:
is normal ? i copy a litle part of color chart and later paste in Template (The Template in Download section.

(<--------- this template is valid for mod11)

Sorry is a asked phrase:
Correction:
(<--------- this template is valid for mod11 ???????????)
Author:  Stormcrow [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:59 pm ]
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The png is a reference chart, it was never meant to be used as a palette.
There is an aco, act and a pal. The aco and act are Photoshop colortable and swatchfile, which is what most of us use. The pal is for...I don't even remember what program. Spudz777 made a Gimp palette for mod 11 as well. I may or may not have gotten off my fat arse and uploaded it to the ftp.

A very few people use MS Paint and unfortunately they are the only ones that can really help you. Melody proved that it can be done, but from what little experimentation I've done with it it isn't worth the trouble.

There are other programs you can use, and there are people here who use them and could help you out.

Aside from getting a real paint program (like Photoshop) , Gimp is a free download and (from what I hear) is much better than MS Paint. I would recommend one or the other.
Author:  Guest [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:53 pm ]
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yeah, but can download a GIMP Palette for GIMP ? (MOD 11)

Where?
Author:  Stormcrow [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:33 pm ]
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http://www.ryandor.com/file/pafiledb.ph ... file&id=25
Author:  Guest [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:39 pm ]
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but cant downloadm, the link it broken
Author:  Spudz777 [ Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:44 pm ]
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The palette file can be found here, at least for now.

Keep in mind that the palette file by itself doesn't really do anything. You have to have a bmp which is indexed to the palette, since Dragon doesn't care what the actual colors are, only what index they are. In Gimp, start with a blank image of appropriate size, go to Image->Mode->Indexed, select Use Custom Palette, select the file you just downloaded into your Gimp Palettes directory, and un-check "Remove unused colors from final palette".

PS The download link does seem to be broken in the main download section... Someone might want to fix that...?
Author:  Stormcrow [ Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:39 pm ]
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Hrmmm...something wrong with my account.
I have admin permissions and I can access and add files, the upload says success at the bottom but there are lines above says access denied.
Ry please fix.
Author:  Ryandor [ Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:22 pm ]
Post subject: 
Fixed.
You uploaded (and hence failed) to the wrong directory.
try "files" instead of "file".


I would have seen this sooner if you'd have sent me a pm :P

-Ryandor
Author:  Stormcrow [ Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:46 pm ]
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I just browsed to it.
Anyway thanks for fixing.
Author:  areaglar [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:29 am ]
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I'm having the same problem, using Photoshop CS.
I did everything just like that MapMaking tutorial says, and when I run dragon, everything turns to grass. The colortable that comes with the mod is correct?
Author:  Stormcrow [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:12 pm ]
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Which tutorial? Which template? The one written for mod9? No, it isn't going to work for mod11.
Author:  areaglar [ Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:49 am ]
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Oh, I see. Problem solved here...
TY
Author:  maco [ Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:08 am ]
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hello all,

i got a similar problem, i am using Photoshop and also palete for Dragon mod11, but when compiling the map and using the map in UO, i get another types of terrains

for example: i draw water and after compiling, the place with water is a grass... cave floor is snow and so on :(

i tried different versions of Dragon, but it's still the same (i allways used the right palete to right Dragon version

is here anyone who did expirience this problem? or is here anyone who can help me as well? thanks
Author:  aka Reu [ Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:30 am ]
Post subject: 
Please review this thread

http://www.ryandor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2470&highlight=diff

to begin with and see if this is your trouble.
Author:  maco [ Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:42 pm ]
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sorry this is not my problem.. also i tried to rename all files described in review, but it didn't help

my problem is simple :) when i draw water in output i get grass

i tried all colors from the palete and i get completly different terrains and with completly different hight (Z)
Author:  Dev Viperrious [ Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:03 pm ]
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Actually it most likly is your problem. Try reloading your color tables, you might need to index them.

Dev
Author:  Spudz777 [ Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:04 pm ]
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Make sure you're clear on the way the files have to be created and indexed. It sounds to me like you're simply creating a new file and not indexing it to the palette. Read my previous post in this thread for a basic set of instructions, and ask if you need more help.
Author:  maco [ Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:31 pm ]
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thanks, sure it's my problem.. but i am new in this

i am not sure if i can fully understand the sentences:

"Make sure you're clear on the way the files have to be created and indexed. It sounds to me like you're simply creating a new file and not indexing it to the palette."

i am making map like this:

open photoshop.. add palette (dragon-mod1.aco), then draw some map with water and grass.. save it like 8bit bmp
open dragon, add mymap.bmp and map0.mul (map0.mul is copied from UO)
compile the map..
use dragonsp...
rewrite map0.mul, statics0 and staidx0 in RunUO directory and in UO


i can see drawed map but the terrain is different, it's because i am doing something wrong.. but what?
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